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+<!-- FIXME: denver, karen: if you wanted to include the free CI credits stuff --
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+  -- here -->
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+<h3>Meanwhile, in Copyleft Land &hellip;</h3>
+
+<span class="copious">
+<p>In the late 1990s, it became obvious that the Free Software Foundation USA
+  (FSF USA) was not able to do every possible task for the toolchain
+  projects, which included:
+  <ul><li>Copyright Assignment</li>
+    <li>Appointing Maintainers of key GNU packages</li>
+    <li>Running all infrastructural servers for every GNU project</li>
+    <li>Licensing work (e.g., drafting new versions of the GPL)</li>
+  </ul>
+</p>
+</p>
+
+<p>A compromise was reached, creating the Sourceware project (which years
+  later became an SFC member project).</p>
+</section>
 
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+
+<h3>SourceWare is different</h3>
+<span class="copious">
+<p>Because the project was founded by developers who valued copyleft,
+ Sourceware remains always unwilling to allow for-profit interests influence
+  the hosting.</p>
+
+<p>This resistance by individuals from allowing for-profit control continued
+  &mdash; even though Sourceware's physical servers physically reside in
+  donated rack space from Cygnus (then Red Hat and now IBM).</p>
+  
+<p>Sourceware is admittedly not the infrastructure of choice for folks who
+  don't do low-level C/C++ programming, but it does serve the needs of that
+  community well.</p>
+</span>
+</section>
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+<h3>There is some other hope as well!</h3>
+<span class="copious">
+
+<p>Please take a look at the Forejgo project, and the German-based
+  non-profit, Codeberg.</p>
+
+<p>There are many other similar systems, we think Forejgo is strategic
+  because they have attempted to make the system <em>feature and interface
+  compatible</em> with GitHub, which as we saw in our survey at the start of
+  the talk is by-far the most popular proprietary hosting solutions used by
+  FOSS developers.</p>
+</span>
+</section>
+
+
+<!-- , If you wanted to talk about GiveUpGitHub, or the
+  -- CoPilot mess, it could fit here.  I tend to end my talks with "positive",
+  -- then "big negative", so I would normally put here.  I think you have to
+  -- cut it for time anyway. --!>
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+
+<h3 >Follow-Up / Talk License</h3>
 <p>Please donate to become a Conservancy
   Sustainer: <a href="https://sfconservancy.org/sustainer/">https://sfconservancy.org/sustainer/</a></p>
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+## Final Slides
+
+The remain slides are very wordy.  I did start to feel my symptoms works
+around 13:45 local, so while I'd sped up, I then slowed down.  The slides
+should probably be edited, the text of what's there placed here, and the
+words on the slide should be less.