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+<section>
+  <h3>Post-Sourceforge Diaspora</h3>
+  <ul><li>Berlios</li>
+    <li>Gna!</li>
+    <li>Savannah</li>
+  </ul>
+    <p>There have even
+        been <a href="https://www.igi-global.com/article/fork-not-fork/68147">academic
+        whitepapers</a> written about this situation as late as 2011.</p>
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 Sourceforge, and ironically, the successor in interest, Sourceforce, Inc.,
 realized Inkscape downloads were one of their largest downloaded projects,
 and constantly pitched us toxic revenue-sharing schemes until Inkscape
-finally escaped Sourceforge.
+finally escaped Sourceforge. [ next slide ]
+
+## Sourceforge Diaspora: Slide 3
+
+The reason some projects had such trouble with getting away from Sourceforge
+was because there wasn't a primary fork, but dozens.  Here's a list of the
+ones that Bradley could remember, but he recalls at the time there were at
+least four or five more that split the attention of the community so badly
+that, by the time AJAX and Web 2.0 came along, there was not enough
+leadership to move an old PHP+HTML application to the more interactive and
+modern looks that users were demanding by the late 2000s. [ switch slides ]