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   <h3>Post-Sourceforge Diaspora</h3>
   <ul><li>Berlios</li>
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+  <h2 class="top-title">An Old bkuhn Slide</h2>
+<img src="preston-werner.jpg" align="right"  />
+<p align="left">
+ &#8226; Tom Preston-Werner<br/>
+ &#8226;the <a href="http://tom.preston-werner.com/2011/11/22/open-source-everything.html">&ldquo;open source almost everything&rdquo;</a> guy<br/>
+ &#8226;claimed at OSCON 2013:<br/>
+ &#8226;&ldquo;The GPL is a license of restrictions; I don’t like restrictions. just use MIT&rdquo;<br/>
+</p>
+  </section>
+</section>
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  <h3 >Follow-Up / Talk License</h3>
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+
+## Preston-Warner: Slide 4
+
+Enter GitHub, founded in October 2007.  GitHub from its very founding learned
+the VA Linux lesson: don't ever give anyone code, and in fact, take great
+efforts to convince the FOSS community that copyleft, particularly the Affero
+GPL are terrible.  
+
+Enter GitHub, founded in October 2007.  GitHub from its very founding learned
+the VA Linux lesson: don't ever give anyone any code: keep it all
+proprietary — and if you must release FOSS, do it in a way that doesn't allow
+people to make their own system.
+
+This is an old slide of Bradley's, which he insisted we include even though
+he's shown a slide like this on the main stage at FOSDEM at least once
+before, simply to point out that convincing users of a fully GPL'd VCS
+(namely, Git) to switch to a forge that locked them into proprietary
+services.
+
+While Preston-Warner was pushed out of GitHub due to an unrelated HR
+scandal, his vision, warped morality, and aggressive hatred of copyleft was
+baked into GitHub culture.
+
+In fact, GitHub took great political and advocacy efforts to convince the
+FOSS community that copyleft (particularly the Affero GPL) are terrible
+license beyond this OSCON keynote of Preston-Warner's.  We have seen cases,
+BTW, of GitHub employees, proudly sporting their “GitHub employee”
+achievement badge right next to their user icon, go into AGPL'd projects that
+they aren't even **contributing** to with rants about how the AGPL is a bad
+license.
+
+We've also heard reliable intelligence (confirmed by multiple sources) that
+GitHub has an **internal fork of Git itself**.  Now, the GPL of course allows
+internal forks, since its copyleft requirements (in most cases — there are a
+few exceptions) trigger only on distribution.  Obviously convincing  our own
+Git member project to switch to the AGPL is *way beyond* politically viable
+and we haven't even asked.  But, this situation shows that if GitHub has a
+legally viable choice between liberating code on their own accord and
+proprietarizing it, they chose proprietarization *every* *single* *time*.
+
+[ next slide ]
+